View video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDH92hYX314
Dear readers,
This initiation of Dorje Shugden was conferred in Los Angeles in the 1980s onto Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen’s own students in Thubten Dhargye Ling. Prior to Kyabje Zong Rinpoche giving the advice, Geshe-la formally requested Kyabje Zong Rinpoche to give an initiation of Dorje Shugden. Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen was a very strong and devoted practitioner of Dorje Shugden and you can hear Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen’s voice at the beginning of the video.
After the formal request was made, Kyabje Zong Rinpoche himself, who is the overlord of all tantric mandalas, gave the profound initiation of Dorje Shugden to Geshe-la and all his disciples. And thereafter, Geshe-la and all his students practiced Dorje Shugden very strongly and very devotedly until the ban.
We have no reports of what happened after that.
Transcript :
— (Geshe Tsultrim Gyaltsen speaks in Los Angeles) —
My root guru His Holiness Kyabje Zong Tulku Dorje Chang Lobsang Tsundu Thubten Gyaltsen gives most emanation deity Gyalchen Dorje Shugden’s life entrustment initiation along with very pure and excellent biographies and stories, here is the voice record while giving the empowerment.
I, Geshe Tsultrim Gyaltsen student formally requested.
— (His Holiness Kyabje Zong Rinpoche begins to speak through a translator) —
After receiving this Dorje Shugden initiation, you have to do puja once a month. Also, it is necessary to follow the commitment, and you have to make a commitment with the lineage and with the order.
So that means, for example you [might] receive teachings from different traditions but mainly, your practice, your focus, your energy [should be put] into this lineage, the Gelugpa lineage.
If you have to or if you wish to do some kind of Dharmic activities with other sects of Buddhism, that is okay to do some kind of activities but your main practice or the principle practice, you have to make the commitment with this lineage of Lama Tsongkhapa. That’s why I mentioned before, you have to know and told that you should not take initiation if you are not sure. So once you take this initiation, then you have to make a commitment with the Gelug lineage and this is necessary not to mix up everything.
There are sometimes rumours that people say, “Oh, Shugden initiation is not…”, people say that it is not necessary to take Shugden initiation or, some people say Shugden is even not good protector.
That is not true. People who have this Shugden initiation and people who practice Dorje Shugden, those people have very great, successful meditation and practice. Even worldly measures, like worldly activities and business and job; everything becomes very successful.
Because it says Dorje Shugden is a Gelugpa protector, so some people they think when you say ‘Gelugpa protector’, they think we are narrow-minded and they think people who practice Shugden, they think they are narrow-minded and they think people who practice Shugden, they are sectarian. Actually, not sectarian…maybe because they are sectarian so they think that the people who practice Shugden are sectarian. People make up all kinds of stories and rumours, you should know that beforehand.
Some people, after taking the Shugden initiation and teachings, when they hear these rumours, they think…ignorant people, narrow-minded people make those rumours, and some people think that it is true and so maybe they give up the practice or they even don’t want to have this protector which is very bad, and that is not good for the person.
Actually it is up to you, whatever you want to do is up to you; your own life, everything is your own choice and your freedom and your own enlightenment, and what you want to do or not is up to you but I’m talking about what is good for you. You have to be very careful about what you do and you should not become gullible; you should not just follow someone saying “this is no good” and listen to all these stories from people. You should not change your mind, and you should always be aware and you have to make sure.
In Tibet, it doesn’t matter what people say and actually in Tibet, there’s many people who follow this and do this practice and actually, always there’s more and more people who do this kind of meditation.
So you have to know this, you have to be very sure or otherwise, later on, if people say to you “Oh, this practice is no good” and they make all kinds of stories and rumours…then if you give up, then it’s not good for you and then it will be a big mistake for you. Therefore you have to make sure that you keep this commitment and follow this commitment.
Because this is your own choice, and no one says you should do or you must do this and your own…like you choose to do this so you have to think about this very carefully. No one says you must do this without your own choice, and it’s like if you don’t want to and no one can say “you should do this or shouldn’t do this.”
Watch Part 2: http://dorjeshugden.com/wp/?p=7109
MORE GREAT VIDEOS:
- Jammon Puja
- Ven. Lama Thubten Phurbu giving messages to NAGBAUSA
- Teaching and Long Life Offering - Geshe Thupten Thinley at Shar Gaden, 2012
- A Song in Praise of Geshe Wangchuk
- Lama Gangchen Rinpoche goes to Tibet, August 2011
- Chatring Samphel Ling Monastery, Kham Tibet
- Tibetan Public Talk, Interview of Ven Geshe Jampa Losel, March 2012
- Tibetan public talk 2012 Feb : Interview with Legthang Tenzin Gyatso
- Serpom Torgya
- State Oracles of Tibet with the Dalai Lama in Bodhgaya 2012
- Tordup and Losar-2012 at Shar Gaden Monastery
- Kyabje Yongyal Dorje Chang Visits Serpom Monastery December 16, 2011
- 2012 US Kadampa Festival
- Serpom Monastery Inauguration Ceremony
- The Powerful Divine
- Serpomku
- Dorje Shugden Initiation to Thousands at Markam, Chamdo, Tibet
- The Yangdup Puja-2011
- Dorje Shugden oracle takes trance while Lama Thubten Phurbu is giving Dharma talk in Tibet
- Must Watch Advice from HH Kyabje Zong Dorje Chang on Dorje Shugden Part 1
- Must Watch Advice from HH Kyabje Zong Dorje Chang on Dorje Shugden Part 2
- Thangkas That Include Dorje Shugden
- Dorje Shugden Thangkas
- Dorje Shugden Images
- Dorje Shugden Statues
- The Manjushri Jenang 2011
- The Debate Test-2011
- Homage to all Dorje Shugden Practitioners
- Oracles and Demons of Ladakh
- Maitreya Prayer 2011, Serpom Monastery
- Kyabje Damcho Rinchen Jungne in Tibet
- Shar Gaden Monlam 2011
- Serpom Monastery
- Serpom young monks reciting Ganglongma daily
- Dagom Rinpoche Guru Puja Commentary
- Ven' Geshe Kelsang Gyatso Talking about the Sadhana Quick Path to Great Bliss and Je Pabongka
- Inauguration Ceremony November 2007
- Monlam Festival at Serpom Monastery
- NAGBA and Zawa Tulku Rinpoche
- His Holiness Trijang Rinpoche and his brother Prince TJ Versace
- North American Geluk Buddhist Association Summer Festival 2011, at Montreal, Canada
- Tibetan Oracle of Ladakh
- The Symbolism of Dorje Shugden
- Mantra of Dorje Shugden
- Shugden
- Lama Thubten Phurbu's Dharma Tour in Kham/Lhasa, Tibet
- Chod Tsok, Gaden Nyengyu
- The Annual Yangdup Puja 2010-Shar Gaden
- Buddhist Wisdom - The 20-year Kadam Choeling
- Serpom Monastery (Annual Medicine Buddha Festival)
- Ngawang Drakpa Prophecy & Dhe Tsang monastery
- Monasteries Practising Dorje Shugden in Tibet
- Huge Dorje Shugden statue of Tseri Sagong Monastery in Chamdo, Tibet
- Lama Thubten Phurbu Spreading Dorje Shugden in Chamdo, Tibet
- Three Principal Aspects of the Path - Lama Yeshe
- The Maha Gutor Puja 2011- (Last Day)
- Serpom Monastery Oct' 2010
- The State Oracle of Tibet
- The Preliminary session of The Maha Gutor Puja-2011 DAY 1
- North America Geluk Buddhist Association
- Teaching by Geshe Tsultim Gyeltsen about renunciation and describes the six realms of existence
- Mandala Offering - His Eminence Khejok Rinpoche
- Lama Jampa Ngodup Rinpoche's Teaching, Markham, Tibet, VOL l
- French Medium Meets Oracle Nechung
- The Great Fifth
- Gonpo Dhondup – Panchen Lama Dren Lu (Longing) Tibetan Song
- 2011 Late Night Debate Ceremony at Shar Gaden
- Venerable Zawa Tulku Rinpoche - Moncton Buddhist Centre
- The 13th Dalai Lama
- Shar Gaden Monks Dissolving Sand Mandala
- Shar Gaden Monastery with Dorje Shugden mantra
- Kyabje 13th Daknak Rinpoche Teaching LAMRIM
- Lama Michel Visits Shar Gaden-2010
- Shar Gaden monks doing prayer rituals in Füssen, Germany
- The Invocation of Peaceful Dulzin on 29th, Nov 2010 at Shar Gaden (part 1 & 2)
- Shar Gaden Monastery Educational Program
- Modern Day Lineage Masters of the Ganden Tradition
- Shar Gaden Consecration Puja 2010 – DAY 3
- Shar Gaden Consecration Puja 2010 - DAY 2
- Shar Gaden Consecration Puja 2010 - DAY 1
- Shar Gaden History Part 2 - How the monastery arose
- The Gaden Lineage
- Shar Gaden Performing Arts
- Shar Gaden History Part 1 - Ganden Shartse Monastery in the early days
- Interview de Dagpo Rinpoche
- Introduction to Tantra - Lama Yeshe Part 1 Chapter 1
- Discovering Buddhism: Ribur Rinpoche on Five Forces
- Dorje Shugden – An Illustrated Story
- Rabten Choeling (Tibetan Temple in Switzerland)
- Rabten Choeling Le Mont Pèlerin: Rinpoche segnet
- Rabten Cheoling Le Mont Pèlerin: Begrüssung durch Rinpoche
- Rabten Choeling Le Mont Pèlerin: Rinpoche betet
- Rinpoche-Lama Gangchen En Amazonas
- Shar Gaden Monastery & Serpom Monastery
- Kyabje Zong Rinpoche
- Venerable Geshe Kelsang talking about distributing wisdom with Dharma books
- Mongolia – Gandan Monastery – The large Chenresig statue was sponsored and built by Sogpu Rinpoche Guru Deva
- Lama Gangchen Rinpoche NgalSo Self Healing Chanting
- Why does Dorje Shugden appear so fearsome?
- Tsongkhapa Parinirvana Day - Prayers in Shar Gaden
Tags: dorje shugden, empowerment, initiation, zong rinpoche
Excelent advice by holy great matser. Everythings Zong Rimpoche says is no mistake. We must never let go of Rimpoche advice no matter how dificult the time and obstacles.
This website of Shugdem very good. Many watch this website everyday. Thank yuo very much for make availablle.
Geshe Tsultrim Gyeltsen practiced Dorje Shugden very deeply and advised his students to do so in Los Angeles. He requested Kyabje Zong Rinpoche to confer advice, initiation and explanation of Dorje Shugden. Here you can hear the recorded voice of both Geshe-la and Kyabje Zong Rinpoche who have both passed away now. As a result of Geshe la, many students in the West took on the practice of Dorje Shugden until today.